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RsiN · 27 Jun 2011, 1:32 PM EDT

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/...er-do-we-.html
What do you guys think of this?

PSYBORG1 · 27 Jun 2011, 1:50 PM EDT

This is not about separation, that was an attack on religion itself any idiot can see that.

I think that if we removed under God then we're truly ****ed since the very year we removed prayer in schools or even allowed to pray in schools grades started to drop and have been dropping ever since. The only reason they have spiked in the last couple of years is because we lowered the requirements.

SBDuNk · 27 Jun 2011, 3:07 PM EDT

Lol there's no correlation between ending prayer in schools and American education getting worse. Our education dropped on purpose all you have to do is open a book to find this out.

RsiN · 27 Jun 2011, 3:12 PM EDT

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSYBORG1

This is not about separation, that was an attack on religion itself any idiot can see that.

I think that if we removed under God then we're truly ****ed since the very year we removed prayer in schools or even allowed to pray in schools grades started to drop and have been dropping ever since. The only reason they have spiked in the last couple of years is because we lowered the requirements.

I telling someone about that the other day too. As we remove God out of the equation we as a nation start to lose his blessings.

darkfelix · 27 Jun 2011, 4:29 PM EDT

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSYBORG1

I think that if we removed under God then we're truly ****ed since the very year we removed prayer in schools or even allowed to pray in schools grades started to drop and have been dropping ever since..

Complete Bull Shit.

Quote:

The only reason they have spiked in the last couple of years is because we lowered the requirements

This is true however. Bush's no child left behind focused all the attention on getting the really ****ing dumb kids up to level by lowering standards, and left everyone else behind.

PSYBORG1 · 27 Jun 2011, 4:57 PM EDT

People may say there is no connection between prayer in schools and education but I definitely disagree, history shows this.

I'm not looking for a wtf efight, just responding to the thread how I see it, if you don't agree that's fine just move the **** on and stop trying to argue with me.

Raines5 · 27 Jun 2011, 5:24 PM EDT

I'm a christian, but I also believe in separation of church and state. I, nor the school should be forcing religion upon anyone, I can pursue it alone, after hours.

Turkey-Glue · 27 Jun 2011, 5:26 PM EDT

It shouldn't be in there, but we have way bigger issues than this to deal with.

The idea of removing prayer from school effecting grades is mind boggling. Personally, I think grades started to suffer because they canceled Married with Children.

STUPIFI3D · 29 Jun 2011, 12:49 AM EDT

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBDuNk

Our education dropped on purpose all you have to do is open a book to find this out.

Are you talking about NCLB or a bullshit conspiracy theory?

Man I love being able to say bullshit instead of BS now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raines5

I'm a christian, but I also believe in separation of church and state. I, nor the school should be forcing religion upon anyone, I can pursue it alone, after hours.

Yes, the Pledge of Allegiance shouldn't have had any mention of God in it, although I believe "one nation under God" means more along the lines of "We are the chosen ones" rather than "We all believe in God." I don't believe in faculty led prayers in school but I do agree with having a silent time for prayer/reflection if anyone chooses to.

justin007isback · 29 Jun 2011, 1:53 AM EDT

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSYBORG1

People may say there is no connection between prayer in schools and education but I definitely disagree, history shows this.

I'm not looking for a wtf efight, just responding to the thread how I see it, if you don't agree that's fine just move the **** on and stop trying to argue with me.

There is a correlation. The longer the kids spent chanting meaningless rhetoric the longer they are distracted from learning.

anthonythegame · 29 Jun 2011, 2:04 AM EDT

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSYBORG1

This is not about separation, that was an attack on religion itself any idiot can see that.

I think that if we removed under God then we're truly ****ed since the very year we removed prayer in schools or even allowed to pray in schools grades started to drop and have been dropping ever since. The only reason they have spiked in the last couple of years is because we lowered the requirements.

I don't think prayer had anything to do with it. I went to a Catholic School from grade 2-8 and I'll admit that the education I received there was multitudes better than what I received from my public high school, but prayer had nothing to do with it. I attribute it to the small classroom sizes, having the same teacher and just the difference in teaching styles. My religion class everyday or the once a month church visits didn't really do anything for my social studies skills.

Anyway, if you have a problem with saying "Under God" just don't say it. It's really that easy.

Pradah-gee · 29 Jun 2011, 1:15 PM EDT

Doesn't society use "God" as a general term? I mean all religions have a "God". Maybe i'm missing the context but I don't get it.

PSYBORG1 · 29 Jun 2011, 2:11 PM EDT

the duke has spoken, all of you mother ****ers can go away now.

Raines5 · 29 Jun 2011, 6:35 PM EDT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pradah-gee

Doesn't society use "God" as a general term? I mean all religions have a "God". Maybe i'm missing the context but I don't get it.

But not everyone believes in god.

PSYBORG1 · 29 Jun 2011, 7:33 PM EDT

Quote:

Originally Posted by justin007isback

There is a correlation. The longer the kids spent chanting meaningless rhetoric the longer they are distracted from learning.

I can only state the facts here sport.

27 Jun 2011, 1:32 PM EDT	#1
RsiN Going Strong Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Bronx,NY Posts: 430	Taking God out of the Pledge of Allegiance. http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/...er-do-we-.html What do you guys think of this? __________________ RsiNtheCLutch Twiter

27 Jun 2011, 1:50 PM EDT	#2
PSYBORG1 Grandmaster Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Somewhere on the internet Posts: 13,781	This is not about separation, that was an attack on religion itself any idiot can see that. I think that if we removed under God then we're truly ****ed since the very year we removed prayer in schools or even allowed to pray in schools grades started to drop and have been dropping ever since. The only reason they have spiked in the last couple of years is because we lowered the requirements. __________________ You know, with so many people wanting contraception to be paid for by the government makes me think of only one thing: I wish that I was having so much sex, I couldn't afford condoms and demanded the government pay for my condoms. Who agrees?

27 Jun 2011, 3:12 PM EDT	#4
RsiN Going Strong Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Bronx,NY Posts: 430	Quote: Originally Posted by PSYBORG1 This is not about separation, that was an attack on religion itself any idiot can see that. I think that if we removed under God then we're truly **ed since the very year we removed prayer in schools or even allowed to pray in schools grades started to drop and have been dropping ever since. The only reason they have spiked in the last couple of years is because we lowered the requirements. I telling someone about that the other day too. As we remove God out of the equation we as a nation start to lose his blessings. __________________ RsiNtheCLutch** Twiter

27 Jun 2011, 4:29 PM EDT	#5
darkfelix Postin' Ain't Easy Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 2,750	Quote: Originally Posted by PSYBORG1 I think that if we removed under God then we're truly **ed since the very year we removed prayer in schools or even allowed to pray in schools grades started to drop and have been dropping ever since.. Complete Bull Shit. Quote: The only reason they have spiked in the last couple of years is because we lowered the requirements This is true however. Bush's no child left behind focused all the attention on getting the really ing dumb kids up to level by lowering standards, and left everyone else behind. __________________ "We cannot discover new oceans unless we have the courage to lose sight of the shore"** Emo II \| \| \|

27 Jun 2011, 4:57 PM EDT	#6
PSYBORG1 Grandmaster Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Somewhere on the internet Posts: 13,781	People may say there is no connection between prayer in schools and education but I definitely disagree, history shows this. I'm not looking for a wtf efight, just responding to the thread how I see it, if you don't agree that's fine just move the **** on and stop trying to argue with me. __________________ You know, with so many people wanting contraception to be paid for by the government makes me think of only one thing: I wish that I was having so much sex, I couldn't afford condoms and demanded the government pay for my condoms. Who agrees?

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27 Jun 2011, 3:07 PM EDT	#3
SBDuNk Banned 4 Life Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,423	Lol there's no correlation between ending prayer in schools and American education getting worse. Our education dropped on purpose all you have to do is open a book to find this out.

27 Jun 2011, 5:24 PM EDT	#7
Raines5 Grandmaster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 10,262	I'm a christian, but I also believe in separation of church and state. I, nor the school should be forcing religion upon anyone, I can pursue it alone, after hours. __________________ Quote: WE ARE ONE NATION, IN PROGRESS

27 Jun 2011, 5:26 PM EDT	#8
Turkey-Glue Spell Check Poster Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 85	It shouldn't be in there, but we have way bigger issues than this to deal with. The idea of removing prayer from school effecting grades is mind boggling. Personally, I think grades started to suffer because they canceled Married with Children.

29 Jun 2011, 12:49 AM EDT	#9
STUPIFI3D Grandmaster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 14,432	Quote: Originally Posted by SBDuNk Our education dropped on purpose all you have to do is open a book to find this out. Are you talking about NCLB or a bullshit conspiracy theory? Man I love being able to say bullshit instead of BS now. Quote: Originally Posted by Raines5 I'm a christian, but I also believe in separation of church and state. I, nor the school should be forcing religion upon anyone, I can pursue it alone, after hours. Yes, the Pledge of Allegiance shouldn't have had any mention of God in it, although I believe "one nation under God" means more along the lines of "We are the chosen ones" rather than "We all believe in God." I don't believe in faculty led prayers in school but I do agree with having a silent time for prayer/reflection if anyone chooses to. __________________ I never submitted the whole of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. -Thomas Jefferson

29 Jun 2011, 1:53 AM EDT	#10
justin007isback Notorious Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pismo Beach, California Posts: 6,520	Quote: Originally Posted by PSYBORG1 People may say there is no connection between prayer in schools and education but I definitely disagree, history shows this. I'm not looking for a wtf efight, just responding to the thread how I see it, if you don't agree that's fine just move the ** on and stop trying to argue with me. There is a correlation. The longer the kids spent chanting meaningless rhetoric the longer they are distracted from learning. __________________ -- Only Moron and Genius would fight a losing battle against the super ego** 06/25/11 - Never Forget.

29 Jun 2011, 2:04 AM EDT	#11
anthonythegame Forum Nightmare Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SW Philly Posts: 9,591	Quote: Originally Posted by PSYBORG1 This is not about separation, that was an attack on religion itself any idiot can see that. I think that if we removed under God then we're truly **ed since the very year we removed prayer in schools or even allowed to pray in schools grades started to drop and have been dropping ever since. The only reason they have spiked in the last couple of years is because we lowered the requirements. I don't think prayer had anything to do with it. I went to a Catholic School from grade 2-8 and I'll admit that the education I received there was multitudes better than what I received from my public high school, but prayer had nothing to do with it. I attribute it to the small classroom sizes, having the same teacher and just the difference in teaching styles. My religion class everyday or the once a month church visits didn't really do anything for my social studies skills. Anyway, if you have a problem with saying "Under God" just don't say it. It's really that easy. __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by Repulsive- I never knew plastic could bend. Quote: Originally Posted by Casey Foster** If the animals can find the strength, why can't we?

29 Jun 2011, 1:15 PM EDT	#12
Pradah-gee Postin' Ain't Easy Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,209	Doesn't society use "God" as a general term? I mean all religions have a "God". Maybe i'm missing the context but I don't get it. __________________

29 Jun 2011, 2:11 PM EDT	#13
PSYBORG1 Grandmaster Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Somewhere on the internet Posts: 13,781	the duke has spoken, all of you mother ****ers can go away now. __________________ You know, with so many people wanting contraception to be paid for by the government makes me think of only one thing: I wish that I was having so much sex, I couldn't afford condoms and demanded the government pay for my condoms. Who agrees?

29 Jun 2011, 6:35 PM EDT	#14
Raines5 Grandmaster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 10,262	Quote: Originally Posted by Pradah-gee Doesn't society use "God" as a general term? I mean all religions have a "God". Maybe i'm missing the context but I don't get it. But not everyone believes in god. __________________ Quote: WE ARE ONE NATION, IN PROGRESS

29 Jun 2011, 7:33 PM EDT	#15
PSYBORG1 Grandmaster Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Somewhere on the internet Posts: 13,781	Quote: Originally Posted by justin007isback There is a correlation. The longer the kids spent chanting meaningless rhetoric the longer they are distracted from learning. I can only state the facts here sport. __________________ You know, with so many people wanting contraception to be paid for by the government makes me think of only one thing: I wish that I was having so much sex, I couldn't afford condoms and demanded the government pay for my condoms. Who agrees?

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